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		Comment on HS1 &#8211; CONNECTING  TO &#8211; HS2 &#8211; A PIPE DREAM? by Tim Heaps		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/hs1-connecting-to-hs2-a-pipe-dream/#comment-17</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Heaps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 13:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		Comment on PYGAMA PARTY AT LONDON ST PANCRAS by Ian Ring		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Ring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting post]]></description>
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		Comment on RAIL/SEA/RAIL &#8211; WHY IS IT GETTING HARDER ? by Nigel Perkins		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/rail-sea-rail-why-is-it-getting-harder/#comment-15</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nigel Perkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2025 11:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I HAVE POSTED THIS FROM ALBERT BEALE:
I hadn&#039;t realised the Newhaven-Dieppe link was under threat; I use it from time to time.

I remember when almost all the rail/ship/rail connections were seamless, with integrated port/station facilities. We still have that on the route from Harwich to Hook of Holland (though the later is now a metro station link, not mainline), and (give or take a few hundred yards&#039; walk) a rail-boat link at Newhaven ... hence the importance of not losing that route.

Dieppe used to have trains on the quayside meeting the boats (some of the rails are still there; it was a bit like Weymouth used to be, with tracks along a road); but I presume that stopped partly at least because the main ferry dock moved to the other side of the harbour where there was no scope to reroute the tracks to. That crossing enabled a useful overnight London-Paris connection, with the integrated port/station on each side, and (then) direct Dieppe-Paris trains meeting the boats.

And as you say, the port stations closed in Calais and Dover. I imagine the Dover one would be difficult to reinstate, but - as you also say - there could at least be a dedicated shuttle-bus link (indeed there was for a while, years back, on both sides).

The other missing link is the route I used to use quite a lot for overnight London-Brussels journeys, via Ostend. Ostend still has an integrated terminal for the port and railway (and indeed for the trams and buses too - all highly convenient). The one snag, of course, is that Ostend no longer has any passenger ferry connections! A fast ferry or catamaran from a rail-connected port in south-east England, linking to Ostend, would be an option I&#039;d certainly use (as a cheaper alternative to Eurostar at short notice) for London-Brussels (and onwards) journeys.

If we really achieve the switch from flights to surface travel that is desperately needed, then the Channel Tunnel will be insufficient, and then expanded - and more convenient and speedier - surface connections will be necessary.

I well remember years ago getting off a boat at, eg, Hook of Holland, or Ostend, and finding trains waiting alongside the ferry terminal with through carriages to destinations on the other side of Europe. For longer journeys incorporating a ferry, places that do still have a port/station connection (such as Ostend) are the obvious ones to develop services round.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HAVE POSTED THIS FROM ALBERT BEALE:<br />
I hadn&#8217;t realised the Newhaven-Dieppe link was under threat; I use it from time to time.</p>
<p>I remember when almost all the rail/ship/rail connections were seamless, with integrated port/station facilities. We still have that on the route from Harwich to Hook of Holland (though the later is now a metro station link, not mainline), and (give or take a few hundred yards&#8217; walk) a rail-boat link at Newhaven &#8230; hence the importance of not losing that route.</p>
<p>Dieppe used to have trains on the quayside meeting the boats (some of the rails are still there; it was a bit like Weymouth used to be, with tracks along a road); but I presume that stopped partly at least because the main ferry dock moved to the other side of the harbour where there was no scope to reroute the tracks to. That crossing enabled a useful overnight London-Paris connection, with the integrated port/station on each side, and (then) direct Dieppe-Paris trains meeting the boats.</p>
<p>And as you say, the port stations closed in Calais and Dover. I imagine the Dover one would be difficult to reinstate, but &#8211; as you also say &#8211; there could at least be a dedicated shuttle-bus link (indeed there was for a while, years back, on both sides).</p>
<p>The other missing link is the route I used to use quite a lot for overnight London-Brussels journeys, via Ostend. Ostend still has an integrated terminal for the port and railway (and indeed for the trams and buses too &#8211; all highly convenient). The one snag, of course, is that Ostend no longer has any passenger ferry connections! A fast ferry or catamaran from a rail-connected port in south-east England, linking to Ostend, would be an option I&#8217;d certainly use (as a cheaper alternative to Eurostar at short notice) for London-Brussels (and onwards) journeys.</p>
<p>If we really achieve the switch from flights to surface travel that is desperately needed, then the Channel Tunnel will be insufficient, and then expanded &#8211; and more convenient and speedier &#8211; surface connections will be necessary.</p>
<p>I well remember years ago getting off a boat at, eg, Hook of Holland, or Ostend, and finding trains waiting alongside the ferry terminal with through carriages to destinations on the other side of Europe. For longer journeys incorporating a ferry, places that do still have a port/station connection (such as Ostend) are the obvious ones to develop services round.</p>
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		Comment on CROSS EUROPEAN RAIL LINKS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE by Nigel Perkins		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/cross-european-rail-links-continue-to-improve/#comment-13</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nigel Perkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2025 18:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[However, some background - from my own personal knowledge - in response to your item

&quot;WARSAW to the 3 BALTIC CAPITAL CITIES: Until a few years ago it was virtually impossible to make this journey, as there were no through services and no proper connections linking the 4 capital cities.&quot;

This &quot;there were no through services&quot; depends on when you&#039;re talking about.

For generations, during pre-Soviet times, and during Soviet times, and - for a short while - in post Soviet times, there were indeed routine rail services linking the 3 Baltic capitals, with some services extended on to Warsaw. Similarly, there were links from Russia and Belarus to the Baltic states, with some of those including through carriages to Warsaw. More than 30 years ago, in early post-Cold War times, after being at a conference [split between Helsinki and Tallinn in fact], I returned west direct from Tallinn using a through Tallinn-Warsaw service which called at Riga and Vilnius during the day, and continued overnight to Warsaw (it included sleeper carriages). [The fun and games at one of the borders during the night - both in terms of the gauge change technicalities, and the bureaucratic arguments I had about whether or not I retrospectively needed a Belarusian transit visa - are a story in themelves, but I won&#039;t waste your time with that now. The main through route from Vilnius to Poland in those days went via a tiny corner of Belarus, and the gauge change took place at the last place in Belarus before the Polish border.)

What happened is that the 3 Baltic states joined the EU in the 1990s, and - for perhaps understandable political reasons - they downgraded their links to the east, to Russia etc. But additionally, the EU seems to have told them that running rail services with public financial support was the old-style communist way of doing things, and the nice capitalist EU would help fund new motorways and so on instead, to replace the north-south rail links too. And before long even the rail connections between the 3 Baltic capitals were abandoned, let alone the onward link to Poland.

So geographically sensible and obvious rail links, that had been in use for a century or more, irrespective of political changes and assorted borders coming and going during those years, were shut down.

And now, people in that part of Europe are making a fuss about setting up links they say have never existed before; but they certainly have!

 

I hope this is of interest.

Best wishes

Albert Beale]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, some background &#8211; from my own personal knowledge &#8211; in response to your item</p>
<p>&#8220;WARSAW to the 3 BALTIC CAPITAL CITIES: Until a few years ago it was virtually impossible to make this journey, as there were no through services and no proper connections linking the 4 capital cities.&#8221;</p>
<p>This &#8220;there were no through services&#8221; depends on when you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>For generations, during pre-Soviet times, and during Soviet times, and &#8211; for a short while &#8211; in post Soviet times, there were indeed routine rail services linking the 3 Baltic capitals, with some services extended on to Warsaw. Similarly, there were links from Russia and Belarus to the Baltic states, with some of those including through carriages to Warsaw. More than 30 years ago, in early post-Cold War times, after being at a conference [split between Helsinki and Tallinn in fact], I returned west direct from Tallinn using a through Tallinn-Warsaw service which called at Riga and Vilnius during the day, and continued overnight to Warsaw (it included sleeper carriages). [The fun and games at one of the borders during the night &#8211; both in terms of the gauge change technicalities, and the bureaucratic arguments I had about whether or not I retrospectively needed a Belarusian transit visa &#8211; are a story in themelves, but I won&#8217;t waste your time with that now. The main through route from Vilnius to Poland in those days went via a tiny corner of Belarus, and the gauge change took place at the last place in Belarus before the Polish border.)</p>
<p>What happened is that the 3 Baltic states joined the EU in the 1990s, and &#8211; for perhaps understandable political reasons &#8211; they downgraded their links to the east, to Russia etc. But additionally, the EU seems to have told them that running rail services with public financial support was the old-style communist way of doing things, and the nice capitalist EU would help fund new motorways and so on instead, to replace the north-south rail links too. And before long even the rail connections between the 3 Baltic capitals were abandoned, let alone the onward link to Poland.</p>
<p>So geographically sensible and obvious rail links, that had been in use for a century or more, irrespective of political changes and assorted borders coming and going during those years, were shut down.</p>
<p>And now, people in that part of Europe are making a fuss about setting up links they say have never existed before; but they certainly have!</p>
<p>I hope this is of interest.</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Albert Beale</p>
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		Comment on WITH 2 RECENT MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES, BOTH HS1 AND EUROSTAR NEED BETTER CONTINGENCY PLANS by Ian Ring		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/with-2-recent-major-infrastructure-failures-both-hs1-and-eurostar-need-better-contingency-plans/#comment-12</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Ring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2024 19:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I passed the failed train at around 13.30. It was not on the mainline by then and it had two diesel engines attached to the rear.  Eurostar seems to treat its passengers as commodities not people. Everyone on that train wanted to go forward to their European destination not back to London. A recovery plan from an incident like that needs to recognise that. Once made safe the train could have been hauled back to Ashford. Meanwhile a replacement train could have been brought to Ashford and passengers would have a cross platform change of train.

The ingress of water in the Thames tunnel would be more difficult to implement a recovery plan. As my namesake says there would be too many passsengers and trains to use Ebbsfleet as a terminal for all trains.  However a way needs to be found to do something. Maybe turning 50% at Ebbsfleet and 50% at Ashford with the SouthEastern service from Ashford to London via Tonbridge and Maidstone strengthened

Both these incidents are strong arguments for the immediate re-opening of both Ebbsfleet and Ashford.

Ian Ring]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I passed the failed train at around 13.30. It was not on the mainline by then and it had two diesel engines attached to the rear.  Eurostar seems to treat its passengers as commodities not people. Everyone on that train wanted to go forward to their European destination not back to London. A recovery plan from an incident like that needs to recognise that. Once made safe the train could have been hauled back to Ashford. Meanwhile a replacement train could have been brought to Ashford and passengers would have a cross platform change of train.</p>
<p>The ingress of water in the Thames tunnel would be more difficult to implement a recovery plan. As my namesake says there would be too many passsengers and trains to use Ebbsfleet as a terminal for all trains.  However a way needs to be found to do something. Maybe turning 50% at Ebbsfleet and 50% at Ashford with the SouthEastern service from Ashford to London via Tonbridge and Maidstone strengthened</p>
<p>Both these incidents are strong arguments for the immediate re-opening of both Ebbsfleet and Ashford.</p>
<p>Ian Ring</p>
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		Comment on WITH 2 RECENT MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES, BOTH HS1 AND EUROSTAR NEED BETTER CONTINGENCY PLANS by Ian Mcdonald		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/with-2-recent-major-infrastructure-failures-both-hs1-and-eurostar-need-better-contingency-plans/#comment-11</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Mcdonald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2024 16:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recall that Eurotunnel acquired diesel locos to haul failed Eurostars or shuttles out of the tunnels. But of course they would have been of no use in either of these two failure incidents. Eurostar sets have their own foolish inbuilt lack of flexibility, There is no alternative route available in and out of St Pancras. The trains cannot run to any other London terminal, as they are far too long to fit any other platforms, the third rail power shoes were removed and even the viaduct at Vauxhall is no longer available. In any case Eurostar is incapable of providing adequate security and border controls at any other station. Ebbsfleet terminal is tiny, and Ashford would struggle to cope with two or three thousand passengers, every hour or so, even if the security check was omitted on a temporary basis, as border controls would ensure huge queues and no booths for inspection. In these two incidents the SE HS trains could not run either, so the routes to Ashford would have to have been from Victoria,  London Bridge or Charing Cross to Ashford via classic line services via Tonbridge or Maidstone. As usual Eurostar&#039;s contingency plans were utterly hopeless.    Ian McDonald]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall that Eurotunnel acquired diesel locos to haul failed Eurostars or shuttles out of the tunnels. But of course they would have been of no use in either of these two failure incidents. Eurostar sets have their own foolish inbuilt lack of flexibility, There is no alternative route available in and out of St Pancras. The trains cannot run to any other London terminal, as they are far too long to fit any other platforms, the third rail power shoes were removed and even the viaduct at Vauxhall is no longer available. In any case Eurostar is incapable of providing adequate security and border controls at any other station. Ebbsfleet terminal is tiny, and Ashford would struggle to cope with two or three thousand passengers, every hour or so, even if the security check was omitted on a temporary basis, as border controls would ensure huge queues and no booths for inspection. In these two incidents the SE HS trains could not run either, so the routes to Ashford would have to have been from Victoria,  London Bridge or Charing Cross to Ashford via classic line services via Tonbridge or Maidstone. As usual Eurostar&#8217;s contingency plans were utterly hopeless.    Ian McDonald</p>
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		Comment on BY TRAIN TO SPAIN COULD SOON GET A BIT EASIER? by David Smith		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/by-train-to-spain-could-soon-get-a-bit-easier/#comment-9</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it’s Spain that matters and not just Barcelona, there are four Eurostar trains a day to Paris which will enable you to get there the same day…via Bordeaux and Hendaye on the Atlantic coast. San Sebastian and Bilbao a short trip along the line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it’s Spain that matters and not just Barcelona, there are four Eurostar trains a day to Paris which will enable you to get there the same day…via Bordeaux and Hendaye on the Atlantic coast. San Sebastian and Bilbao a short trip along the line.</p>
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		Comment on RAIL &#8211; SEA &#8211; RAIL TO EUROPE A BIT EASIER NOW by David Smith		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/rail-sea-rail-to-europe-a-bit-easier-now/#comment-8</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 10:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it is worth mentioning here that you do not need to queue up after arriving on the ferry at the ticket machine on the platform to buy your metro (RET) ticket. There is an RET app which is available free of charge which gives you a journey planner and ticket purchase ability. The metro runs every ten minutes towards Rotterdam: change at Schiedam (27 mins) for trains to Amsterdam,  go to Alexander (55) for trains to Utrecht/Berlin or to Rotterdam Centraal (42 mins) for southbound, eg Brussels. Line B from the Hoek goes direct to Schiedam and Alexander: for Centraal you can change to the main line at Schiedam or transfer to metro line D or E at Beurs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is worth mentioning here that you do not need to queue up after arriving on the ferry at the ticket machine on the platform to buy your metro (RET) ticket. There is an RET app which is available free of charge which gives you a journey planner and ticket purchase ability. The metro runs every ten minutes towards Rotterdam: change at Schiedam (27 mins) for trains to Amsterdam,  go to Alexander (55) for trains to Utrecht/Berlin or to Rotterdam Centraal (42 mins) for southbound, eg Brussels. Line B from the Hoek goes direct to Schiedam and Alexander: for Centraal you can change to the main line at Schiedam or transfer to metro line D or E at Beurs.</p>
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		Comment on HOW EASY IS IT TO CROSS EU BORDERS BY TRAIN ? by David Smith		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/how-easy-is-it-to-cross-eu-borders-by-train/#comment-7</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2022 21:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done John and good luck. Let’s hope you have a reliable bike!]]></description>
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		Comment on FREE TRAIN TRAVEL FOR UKRAINIAN REFUGEES by David Smith		</title>
		<link>https://www.eurorailcampaignuk.org/free-train-travel-for-ukranian-refugees/#comment-6</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2022 20:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great idea and am sure the EU will play along with the idea. Already a night train corridor has been developed between Ukraine and Prague. Even if Boris likes the idea of free travel, his Home Sec and her Border Force are unlikely to play along. But we’ll see and hope for the best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great idea and am sure the EU will play along with the idea. Already a night train corridor has been developed between Ukraine and Prague. Even if Boris likes the idea of free travel, his Home Sec and her Border Force are unlikely to play along. But we’ll see and hope for the best.</p>
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